And who the *bleep* is Charlie Cox, you ask? Yeah, I’m right there with you. Though obviously not a complete unknown, I must admit that I had never heard of him.

So, what are my thoughts? Well, the first thing that popped into my head after I heard about it was that he didn’t look right for the part. Then I got a look at another picture, and thought maybe. He’s still a little too boyish-looking for me (which really has nothing to do with his age – 31 apparently – just the shape of his face), but to be honest, acting chops matter much more than physical appearance in the end. I do expect a better dye job than the one we saw in the original Daredevil movie. Contrary to what I’ve seen some people express online (all men who’ve never died their hair presumably), you can absolutely go from dark brown to carrot top. It just takes a two step process, usually in one formula, that makes the hair both lighter and redder. I really have no idea why they didn’t do that with Ben Affleck’s hair back in the day.

As for acting skills, I’ve been hearing some encouraging things, including from people who commented on the TOMP Facebook page when the news first broke. I really have little to add in this regard. I will definitely try to actually check out some things he’s been in which I haven’t had the time to do just yet. (And to think I somewhat needlessly watched Cabin in the Woods by no-longer-showrunner-of-Daredevil Drew Goddard!)

All in all, I’m fairly neutral about all of this at this point. As mentioned, I’m a little concerned about Cox’s general appearance, but that matters less than whether or not he can “own the part” in other ways. And as for that, we won’t know until we see some actual footage. I will say that it amuses me to see yet another British actor take on a Marvel superhero (go Old World!) and that he’s not too famous already. What are your thoughts?

And yes, I’m now officially back from my hiatus and will return with my Daredevil #3 review tomorrow!

Christine Hanefalk

Christine Hanefalk

Based in Stockholm, Sweden, Christine is a die-hard Daredevil fan who launched The Other Murdock Papers in 2007 to share her passion for Matt Murdock and his friends with other fans.

12 comments

  1. I’m for it. I haven’t seen Boardwalk Empire, but I love Stardust, and I recall him displaying both a dry wit and a touch of swashbuckling adventurer that I think will lend themselves well to Matt. I don’t know whether he can do an American accent or handle the courtroom-drama or face-punching elements, but I have no reason to think he CAN’T do those things. I vaguely recall seeing him do interesting angst somewhere, too. More power to him, I say.

    And if Danny Kaye can go from black hair to strawberry blond and be moderately convincing throughout his career, I’m sure that between dye and CGI we can turn Charlie Cox into a ginger. I’ve got about his hair color, and a cosmetologist friend tells me I’d make a stunning redhead.

  2. Go to youtube and type in “Owen Slater Bathroom Kill”. Its a scene from Boardwalk Empire someone pointed to on another site discussing this casting.

    I’m fairly enthused. As long as he’s hitting the gym, toning up, and learning some martial arts, I’ve got zero problems with him.

  3. Let’s get one thing straight here: There’s no such thing as “needlessly” watching “Cabin in the Woods.” 🙂

    That said, totally neutral about our new DD. I saw “Stardust” about 100 years ago, but I couldn’t tell you much about that movie let alone his skills. So, I’m neutral, but optimistic.

  4. “”I will say that it amuses me to see yet another British actor take on a Marvel superhero (go Old World!)”

    He’s foreign _and_ lesser-known so he probably came cheaper.

  5. I’ve never heard of nor seen Charlie Cox before now…which is a good thing for I have no preconceptions of whether this is a good or bad choice. Hopefully he will impress.

  6. Yeah I don’t know why America is so into outsourcing all our heroes. I mean Batman, Superman, Spider-man, and now DD all played by brits. But I am willing to give this guy a chance. I haven’t seen anything that he has been in other than bits of Stardust, and he did a pretty good job with that as I remember. Its just to early to make a judgment call with just one casting announcement. But he does need to hit the gym prior to filming. Anyway Ill wait and see. If Arrow is any indication maybe they have cracked the hard to solve formula of how to make superheroes work on a lower budget weekly TV series setting. Fingers crossed and here is hoping.

  7. Regarding employing actors who are not American, I have no problem with this. As long as they can credibly pull off an American accent (preferably one that places the character in New York City), no one should let anyone’s nationality stand in the way of casting someone otherwise suited for the part. And I don’t for a second think it’s a money issue. Why would an unknown British actor cost less than an unknown American actor?

    Christian Bale has been an established actor in Hollywood for decades, I freaking adore Andrew Garfield, and while I didn’t care for Man of Steel at all, its shortcomings had little to do with the casting of Henry Cavill, who looks the part and whom I loved in The Tudors. (Haven’t seen the Tudors? You should! It’s on Netflix.) It would be weird if casting agents were specifically looking for British actors, but I’m extremely confident that isn’t the case. There is no “outsourcing” going on (because that would make no sense at all).

    The opposite, suggesting that American actors should have first dibs on a part in a movie just because it’s an American production, I actually find quite offensive. I don’t believe in protectionism, whether we’re talking about the high costs of trade or the hiring of actors. If the person you want for the part is from another country, you shouldn’t discriminate against that person on the basis of his or her nationality. (And I’m well aware that that’s not how U.S. immigration laws work for most professions, but I would very much prefer it if it did work that way.)

    One of the reasons this kind of grates me is that I regularly see people complain about this in the comic industry too, with the many European artists, in particular, working in American superhero comics. (British writers are perhaps viewed as less “foreign” than, say, Spanish artists and get fewer complaints.) One time, I even saw someone complain that Paolo Rivera wasn’t American (which he is, incidentally). As if that should matter. We should be celebrating the world becoming more integrated and national borders becoming less important.

    /Swedish woman who runs an English-language blog about an American superhero

  8. I meant “outsourcing” as a joke and was thinking primarily of a Saturday Night Live skit that made light of the fact that many American Superheroes were being portrayed by British actors and used the same term in jest. I was using it in a similar way and was not negatively complaining about the pattern. I highly enjoyed Christian Bale, Andrew Garfield and Henry Cavill in their respective roles, and thought they all pulled off the characters they were cast for superbly! Also since Superman is seen as the ultimate American Immigrant this adds a nice touch to the performance. Many of the legendary comic creators including Stan Lee, Jake Kirby, Bod Kane, Jerry Siegel, Joe Schuster, and others were all either European immigrants themselves or the sons of European immigrants. Comics were born out of the idea of diversity and overcoming class and ethnical divides and making a new/better world. So the idea of only having “American” creators and “American” actors portray those characters is silly.

    I just wished to point out the interesting pattern of English actors playing superhero roles. I don’t think it is on purpose it just seems to be the way the industry in leaning at the moment. As I said, English actors have done an amazing job at portraying these characters before. But I am reserving judgment until after the show has aired. One casting choice is not enough to pass judgment on a show that hasn’t even starting filming yet (or has just started). I have crossed fingers that it holds up to the standard set by the up swing that comic based media is on at the moment.

  9. A buddy, who also reads Daredevil, and I were discussing the upcoming series, Cox’s casting, and Daredevil in general. Does anyone else have any thoughts about the possibility of Marvel changing the direction or tone of the comics to better resemble the upcoming show next year?

    Whether you like or dislike the idea, there is a lot of past precedent for Marvel doing this. Just before Captain America: The First Avenger came out, Marvel conveniently choose that time to bring back Steve Rogers from the grave. The X-books had numerous changes that were brought on by the movies at different times. Now suddenly the Guardians of the Galaxy are everywhere. Marvel has been big on the books at least being somewhat similar to their live action properties for those few new readers they might get.

    Most of what we’ve heard about the Netflix series suggests that it will be a crime drama. Quesada’s own words that the sets were alleyways “smelling of vomit, piss, and blood.” Of course we don’t know for sure yet, but if the series is a dark crime drama set on the streets of New York, will Marvel let Waid continue his swashbuckling hero on the bright streets of San Francisco? Thats a year from now and a lot can happen between now and then. Waid may leave the book by then and it be someone else’s “problem”.

  10. I think he plays one of the detectives on one of the Law and Order shows. I think he will play a good crime boss/mastermind, but your right Im not sure how well he would pull off convincing fight scenes as a powerhouse as we know the Kingpin to be. It will be hard to top Michael Clark Duncan’s intimidating frame. Regardless of your thoughts about the 2003 film, the late Duncan looked just like the Kingpin (other than skin color of course).

  11. seems our lives are a chain of smaller details.. sometimes we forget we owe so much to forerunners..

    heck, even this common accepted “empirical” method of proof has it’s beginnings in the.. beginning.. trial and error.. (even today when exploring new scientific foray.. it’s many times learn as you go doing)..

    agreed, it is an urksome thing.. as the the saying goes in this country (as i’m sure it goes in all) from archaic times.. “everything is good.. in measure”.. a saying I (we) would hear continually growing up.. but just how true and applicable to just about everything in all walks of life hit me somewhat later returning..

    there are some here as everywhere.. boy, i get so urked with some of my own people (some even well read educational pros) when they somehow try to make a connection to any scientific advancement of the newer age from what was said by some in antiquity.. “yes but you know dyophantes said this and that would lead to that and this, which shows that thales knew of blah blah blah).. fer christ sake, and depending on who is in the crowd , i have to watch my response or things could get out of hand..

    (it’s the essence of simplicity an old man told me.. think of it as food.. if you don’t eat enough, you can get sick and even die if not at all.. and again, if you eat too much you could possibly explode)

    and then there are the level headed.. moreso i’m sure.. like the greek-american who recently solved one of the major nash equations, was offered work at ibm, but chose to teach at mit.. ok, well bravo.. but, did being within the melting pot help a tad?..

    i was not worried about accent, believing it is easier based upon hearing singers even from way back during the british invasion and not being able to distinguish a difference.. i think the reverse is more commendable on this specific point, where even the best american actors betray themselves while executing more difficult british roles.. downey jr deserves a big bravo as holmes, but even there..

    i was worried that it was the kid who acted (and was great as) harry potter.. until informed on this site.. but when i saw (and heard.. bravo chris) him acting, agree that he was a superb casting.. and i’ve commented on kingpin before and disagree.. am relieved that they toned down fisk’s physique to the more natural “big” standard, donofrio is it.. it’s the masterMIND that matters more i think..

    indeed, should not judge a whole by a few parts.. like, for instance, saying german people are bad, because of what 1 and 1 other bigger dikhed did (with pistol at the temple of the rest of the nation to follow them)..
    and wrong to barricade ourselves from all positive going ons outside our borders.. we are in fact merely screwing ourselves out of so much more potential.. we should take it as a compliment when the likes of moore and such others find our ideas worthy of attention..

    great stuff

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