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		<title>By: Scofomice</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scofomice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Aug 2010 21:26:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 02:01:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just came across this site from a link on The Weekly Crisis.  The Nocenti run was back when I was reading comics regularly, and I frankly loved it.  I can only describe her writing style as &quot;social absurdism,&quot; but maybe that makes as pretentious as people accuse Nocenti as being.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;To be fair on her for the Inferno issues, they come after a great double issue of DD basically getting the crap beaten out of him by several bad guys.  His zombie-like state is much more a response to this than just the events of Inferno.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Patrick</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just came across this site from a link on The Weekly Crisis.  The Nocenti run was back when I was reading comics regularly, and I frankly loved it.  I can only describe her writing style as &quot;social absurdism,&quot; but maybe that makes as pretentious as people accuse Nocenti as being.</p>
<p>To be fair on her for the Inferno issues, they come after a great double issue of DD basically getting the crap beaten out of him by several bad guys.  His zombie-like state is much more a response to this than just the events of Inferno.</p>
<p>Patrick</p>
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		<title>By: Gloria</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gloria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 19:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to say that, before his work in &quot;daredevil&quot; I wasn&#039;t a fan of John Romita Jr.. Much as I adored his Pa, I didn&#039;t like neither his early work on Spiderman, and it was by the time that he was drawing the X-Men that I got tired of mutants.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Still, whether he just went a step in drawing better by the time he tackled DD, or&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;And about Nocenti, I must say that after &quot;born Again&quot; most everything felt like a &quot;downer&quot; to me, but, even if some of her stories were off-character or she tried to shove down our throats some issues, I still think that, in the context of its time, it was a very brave thing to do: instead of opting for just mimicking past runs, she opted to place Matt&#039;s idealism in different terrains. Things like Matt as a ghost-lawyer were, IMO, coherent with his character (though I agree that his fighting Mephisto, or teaming with the Inhumans, was a bit weird).&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;But I hated her making a jerk out of Foggy and separating him from Glorianna O&#039;Breen as a result: at the end of her run she redeemed the Fogster&#039;s sins, but Miss O&#039;Breen was nowhere to be seen... Alas, she only returned briefly, and much later, just to be killed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to say that, before his work in &#8220;daredevil&#8221; I wasn&#8217;t a fan of John Romita Jr.. Much as I adored his Pa, I didn&#8217;t like neither his early work on Spiderman, and it was by the time that he was drawing the X-Men that I got tired of mutants.</p>
<p>Still, whether he just went a step in drawing better by the time he tackled DD, or</p>
<p>And about Nocenti, I must say that after &#8220;born Again&#8221; most everything felt like a &#8220;downer&#8221; to me, but, even if some of her stories were off-character or she tried to shove down our throats some issues, I still think that, in the context of its time, it was a very brave thing to do: instead of opting for just mimicking past runs, she opted to place Matt&#8217;s idealism in different terrains. Things like Matt as a ghost-lawyer were, IMO, coherent with his character (though I agree that his fighting Mephisto, or teaming with the Inhumans, was a bit weird).</p>
<p>But I hated her making a jerk out of Foggy and separating him from Glorianna O&#8217;Breen as a result: at the end of her run she redeemed the Fogster&#8217;s sins, but Miss O&#8217;Breen was nowhere to be seen&#8230; Alas, she only returned briefly, and much later, just to be killed.</p>
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		<title>By: Francesco</title>
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		<dc:creator>Francesco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2009 09:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I liked this issue. The only part I think was unnecessary was when DD picks up litter after defeating the Dentist/Officer/Demon, and some other comments.&lt;br/&gt;But apart from that it is a nice metaphor/commentary of what living in a hard city is like sometimes, and of the struggles an idealistic person, such as DD, must go through in order to not to be turned apathetic in such a context.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I liked this issue. The only part I think was unnecessary was when DD picks up litter after defeating the Dentist/Officer/Demon, and some other comments.<br />But apart from that it is a nice metaphor/commentary of what living in a hard city is like sometimes, and of the struggles an idealistic person, such as DD, must go through in order to not to be turned apathetic in such a context.</p>
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		<title>By: scottyquick</title>
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		<dc:creator>scottyquick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 02:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ann Nocenti is a perfect example of Your Mileage May Vary. Loved her myself, her run was probably my favorite, but it seems like there&#039;s a big sharp stick in the middle of DareFandom where you either like her or you don&#039;t.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;CAN THE TWO SIDES EVER RECONCILE?!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ann Nocenti is a perfect example of Your Mileage May Vary. Loved her myself, her run was probably my favorite, but it seems like there&#8217;s a big sharp stick in the middle of DareFandom where you either like her or you don&#8217;t.</p>
<p>CAN THE TWO SIDES EVER RECONCILE?!</p>
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		<title>By: Flinx79</title>
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		<dc:creator>Flinx79</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 07:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOVED the initial issues of the Nocenti/JRJR run.  I was buying these issues monthly and it was my favourite comic at the time. &lt;br/&gt;JRJR&#039;s art was breathtaking. The printing wasn&#039;t great in those days, but Al Williamson&#039;s inks added a lot to the mood. Take a look at the first issue in their run. DD doesn&#039;t even appear in the comic. But you hardly notice this. It culminated in an horrific attack on DD by a gang of villains that took him out of action for a while. It all got a bit sureal after that!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOVED the initial issues of the Nocenti/JRJR run.  I was buying these issues monthly and it was my favourite comic at the time. <br />JRJR&#8217;s art was breathtaking. The printing wasn&#8217;t great in those days, but Al Williamson&#8217;s inks added a lot to the mood. Take a look at the first issue in their run. DD doesn&#8217;t even appear in the comic. But you hardly notice this. It culminated in an horrific attack on DD by a gang of villains that took him out of action for a while. It all got a bit sureal after that!</p>
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		<title>By: lilacsigil</title>
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		<dc:creator>lilacsigil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 02:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I must agree about the John Romita Jr. art at this time - everyone looks like Conan O&#039;Brien with a slightly mashed-in face, and they&#039;re all wrapped in bandages with excessive cross-hatching. This is a low-light in Nocenti&#039;s run, but, to be fair, Inferno was pretty crappy across all the titles of the time, I think! One reason why I&#039;m still suspicious of cross-overs is the editorial directive to put EVERY title in, when some titles are obviously not suited to whatever this year&#039;s crossover might be.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The people talking about happily polluting the world and killing weak people are meant to be the worst part of themselves (brought on by the demons), IIRC, but here it was so clumsy that I suspect Nocenti wrote the whole thing in five minutes flat. She was certainly capable of good characterisation for single-panel characters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I must agree about the John Romita Jr. art at this time &#8211; everyone looks like Conan O&#8217;Brien with a slightly mashed-in face, and they&#8217;re all wrapped in bandages with excessive cross-hatching. This is a low-light in Nocenti&#8217;s run, but, to be fair, Inferno was pretty crappy across all the titles of the time, I think! One reason why I&#8217;m still suspicious of cross-overs is the editorial directive to put EVERY title in, when some titles are obviously not suited to whatever this year&#8217;s crossover might be.</p>
<p>The people talking about happily polluting the world and killing weak people are meant to be the worst part of themselves (brought on by the demons), IIRC, but here it was so clumsy that I suspect Nocenti wrote the whole thing in five minutes flat. She was certainly capable of good characterisation for single-panel characters.</p>
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